Talk:CNMCyber event

CNMCyber event requirements (office hour, 07-10-2023)

CNMCyber event requirements (office hour, 07-10-2023) is the office hour event on July, 10th about office hour requirements.

Preview video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgYursiLRoI (21:45)

Introduction

Hello guys, I'm Gary and decided to make like office hour with no attendees, it’s only me to record and to use further. So we'll be talking about CNMCyber events and they are part of, like target deliverables. First of all, I would like to take a look at generally all the deliverables. So it will be like CNMCyber event wiki page which we will go over. We also need to have a very workable recording standing operating procedure. They may exist may not. The team just recently started or is starting using virtual machines, so maybe it will kind of be a separate deliverable. Also we need really workable event scheduling tool. They may be combined with the scheduling tool of social we may use kind of the same. For now they're different deliverables but they might be kind of the same thing. We also plan to have some activity coordinating contract with someone. Someone who will oversee or supervise all events and work on the events and work on standing operating procedures or their updates. I decided also that script development is a separate thing because for every event which we have, I'm sure that we will have to have like Scripts. At least with the major points maybe not like complete scripts of everything that was said but made points it must be. And technically it could be a separate contract. So and we will have like someone will do scripts and post them for instance on their talk pages and we'll go from there.

Out-reach event

So for now, let's take a look back to CNMCyber events. First of all, all the events and this is different, like all CNMCyber events are outreach events by default. So only maybe common hour, we will move for like team event. CNMCyber team events. Maybe we will call it this way. So all CNMCyber events they are outreach. They must be public, they must be published on Meetup, and Facebook. For now, we're not using Facebook page but we probably, we need to. I hope it exists. WorldOpp, it looks like it's still there. But we don't update it -- 100 likes. We didn't update it for years. For a long, long time. The pictures are taken from like an old website. I see someone did career price conference. I don't know who did this page. I don't recall. In the first place, but anyway we probably need to kind of, to plug it too and it must be a part of our standing operating procedure. So, on this page basically initially it was like closed events or outreach events. Like for now I intend to make all CNMCyber events as outreach events. So we have 'this week', we have 'office hours', we have 'technology board', 'guided tours' it's not real right now and we may move it to Career prize. Guided tours, initially from the very beginning, guided tours was supposed to be paid. So kind of the idea that the first tour will be like free to test it and then we will go to paid versions. Welcome session, Sonya and Rita worked on it. They did some like dry around but it was a little bit out of touch in my view because the pitch was not available. I'm not sure abut the round table and stand up and seminars. I would say this week is technically a stand up. I would say, it's like it's a weekly stand up. I will combine two pages, 'this week' and 'stand up'. So we don't have like a 'stand up'. Round Table, it's interesting like 'Round Table' we're missing like one part of the events which we need to have. This will be like 'User Group' events and then this like 'Round Table' will come in. All operations must be unified and I would say here create event on Meetup Group.

Scheduling and reminders

Again we need to kind of play and practice with the social. So this is kind of more concentrated on Meetup Group which is correct, but also it doesn't include -- I see also like information about the event should be added. We don't use zoom, we don't use Google meet, we then use Xbox game. Kind of, this information is really outdated. Also as we discussed with-- a few times recently, like 15 minutes before the meeting, in the chat or somewhere it should be posted like message 'thank you for your RSVPs, we are starting in 15 minutes, the agenda is, the meeting will be recorded and published if you miss this you can still review like a video link'. Because people are forgetting that they RSVP'd or they wanted to go, and then just to remind them. It's like a friendly reminder and what is also important, on the same chat and the same kind of scheduling tool, it must be always scheduled. It must be kind of the link to the video must be posted so someone who missed this, they can go and review on YouTube. Right now we use YouTube, hopefully we will use CNMTube at some point of time, maybe not now. Live event operations is different, but usually it should be meet and greet, yes. Then it should be a disclaimer that the session is recorded and recording will be posted somewhere.

Facilitating the event

Facilitating event means different things it depends on the event, but yes it must be like a very clear moderator. Also I want to get back with every event which is missed here, it must be a very clear organizing platform. It can be, right now we use Meetup. But let's say, in the last Thursday we had like technology board and it became clear that it didn't have any scheduling tool because neither me nor Natalia did know what the link of the event is and no one RSVP'd. It was not clear whether it will start, again where it will be conducted and how it will be conducted. So like to choose, let's say if the scheduling platform is not chosen, it must be chosen before the event starts. And for series, it must be predefined. I'm not sure about why, let's say for technology board meetings we didn't use like Meetup at all. I tried to find it's not ever, we didn't have any past event. We never had any technology board. We had it, yeah so we had it in June but it is not kind of the last time or Rita, again it's no video link and no reminder and someone again kind of someone tried to attend but we didn't help this person to go through. So and this was on June 29th right. and the last was June 29 but what about sixth. So we didn't have it on sixth, right. Yeah it doesn't look like we had it. Anyway, if I go to technology board it must be also like defined. So again, what the difference between like CNMCyber event page and all like other specifics. So every event, every let's say technology board or any other CNMCyber event must follow the standing operating procedure from the event. But it has differences, so let's say facilitating is different. Facilitating in let's say this week's series, facilitation is just meet and greet disclaim that it will be recorded and recording will be published give kind of a mic to a speaker, conclude and the rest is pretty much-- so only like this part to like allow asking questions. The rest should follow the same like events which every CNMCyber event should go.

Streaming and location

I'm building like, Sonya created kind of how to record meetings. I don't know whether it's kind of good or bad. We also need to decide about streaming. This is kind of the topic which also like concerns me a lot. So the locations, I prefer let's say like this week meetings or technology board, I prefer them to have in on-site locations. Especially in Washington DC Metro area where I am located. So some people can go and join, like kind of normal people. Someone who is interested in. We need volunteers, we need people and why not to try. We had some location-based events for a while, why not to continue. So and I mentioned many times I mentioned it to Sonya when she was available, Kevin at least like twice. I want to move to physical locations to make it hybrid. Those who want to attend in person should be able to get an attendant person and we never went through. No one asked me about how to do it, how to start. We never tried. I would say I like to keep it to 45 minutes. For like a strange reason, some of our meetings are more than one hour which is not correct and again this is kind of the problem of facilitator who didn't stop me well. This information is outdated so this page by itself is not owned by anyone. Again initially this page was kind of for both open to the public events and close to the public events but for now CNMCyber event by itself should be public, Facebook must be kind of notifications and so on and so forth. It must be better developed including the text before the event, during the event, and so on.

Contracts

We have kind of like a blueprint for agreement. Interesting. I will move it mostly, instead of agreement we have agreement for Careerprise coordinator. We will just use here the kind of the subject matters, so we'll take kind of a subject matter out of here and because the subject matter will be kind of exhibit A for the agreement, appendix sorry. So we will move, so let's say instead of this appendix A will be the subject matters and in this way we don't need to reprint the contract all the time. But the contract will be kind of the same but the subject matters, rates, methods of payment, and communication will be different. Appendix A should be like subject matters. Yes it is we how we will kind of move it. Anyway, the point is that we need to have well-defined CNMCyber event, kind of standing operating procedure, those things which are clear. For now let's say we have a good experience with using Meetup let's say. We don't use it fully because we don't use like comment sections well but at least like as a scheduling tool it's okay. But we need to create a good standing operating procedure and work it out. Anyway that's it guys, and talk to you later.

Thanks so much and see you around what you think and and we will go from there we'll improve. Bye-bye.

Event scripting requirements (office hour, 2023-08-02)

Event scripting requirements (office hour, 2023-08-02) is the office hour event on August, 2nd about CNMCyber event script development.

Preview video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pa5zQx5vU6o (26:02)

Script

Hello everyone my name is Gary from CNMCyber and we have Kevin and this is our office hour Kevin requested. He has several questions which you can see on the screen.

What is a script

So the questions are; what is the script? Basically we're talking about the recording for general events. Script is technically like wording in which we use like in office hour. I'm talking right now and in the best case scenario, it should be typed and Kevin you remember when we started collaborating, maybe like two years ago or more. I asked you to transcript several videos. I recorded the videos and I remember you did it basically. What we have here, let's say WorldOpp Orientation most likely you will have kind of this scripts right, and this is the script. It is how it showed up. Basically it is what you submitted to me and when you supplied me with this wording I added links. So maybe it's not direct recording because then links changed that is why kind of the beginning. In this case we have a lecture on the page and script on another page. If we talk about office hours, the goal is a little bit different. But I would say scripting shouldn't include something like

my name is Gary, or sorry I need to drink my coffee, or give me a post I will like or I will answer another call. It's not important right. So script should include what is important, what should be, what can't be moved to other stuff. So for instance right now we are talking about scripting and I expect that you will take what I said and you will put it on the requirements page. Eventually the script is an intermediate product, it's not the final product. It's a deliverable but this is not a user deliverable. It's a sub-product. So then when the script is available, then we will develop a Wiki page. It will be called like scripting, or CNMCyber event scripting or office hour scripting, something like that.

Kevin - So you mean like each event will have its own scripting page?

Gary- I'm not sure about scripting page, I will say we may put them on the same page. What I plan, instead of the name discussion on the wiki. Instead of the word discussion, it will be the word project and script basically is a part of the work on the product, so the page is the product and discussion will be a project. And we will make this distinction all the time. So let's say what the product name is the product right it's the lecture which is available to our learners on their discussion page which will be hopefully called a project here it will be information how it was developed, what requirements, and so on. So the script, I know that it will be kind of another question but maybe I will need to repeat again later. The script is the record of someone's requirement. For instance, do you remember our discussion, I said like you wrote on this page for office hours right, you wrote something and why did you write it, what did you reflect, what requirements and you said, oh you said this. I said okay, can you show me all right? So the same thing, for instance you're going develop a firm for someone, assume that you will work on this technology right, different records, different everything what the firewalls, what software to use and you talk to a customer (whomever whomever pays for this) and he said, I want to use proxmoxVE right or I want to use this and I want to use that and you say okay we will do it. And then you do proxmoxVE, and then you're coming back it's ready right and they say oh the person whom you talk to, he moved to another project. He is no longer with our company, or he retired or he kind of he quit. And you say who is his replacement, right. And you are coming to his replacement and he said, oh what did you use? ProxmoxVE oh no, I don't want, it's not my strong suit. I want you to use openstack right. So now what? If you don't have a record, what would you sar? You just lost like, if your team worked like for a months on it, you just lost like, I would say fifteen thousand dollars right. Because you don't have a record.

So, I decided to have it as a good habit. It's a good habit to have a script. You talk to a customer, you script it right. The script by itself it goes to requirements. So script by itself is not a final product but requirements which kind of let's say a customer will sign or say okay I agree, it's what I want then it is kind of the product by itself. So then you can measure and in the best case scenario also uh it should be requirements traceability Matrix. So in the best case scenario when you write requirement here on this page, imagine it is what you are going to offer to your boss or your customer. You say it is what you will get, it will have HumHub, it will have Odoo, it will have jitsi they will be installed in this way, we'll use proximoxVE, it will be highly available with three noDes, it will have a network of public ip4, it will serve on Apache and nginx, it will have ceph as a series of storage, it will be monitored using PF sense. Okay is this what you want? Sign or confirm by mail. this is what you want right then you

9:46 have like something blueprint but when 9:48 you create this page 9:50 eventually we never have done it before 9:54 but it's kind of our next step it will 9:59 be like references and the reference 10:01 okay prox Max ve 10:04 reference who told you or with whom you 10:07 agreed that it will be proximus V right 10:09 because if you don't have the 10:12 information that it will be proximix V 10:14 like what is the next right 10:18 oh sorry I kind of I'm in the process of 10:21 translating so I see something not in 10:23 English I'm sorry but but you got kind 10:25 of the the main point right 10:28 yeah yeah yeah 10:31 and the truth will be like a scripting 10:33 page again this is kind of descriptive 10:35 for our reference this is a sub product 10:37 we need to have it but eventually 10:42 what we said there must be moved to the 10:45 requirements on the kind of on their on 10:47 the page available to end users 10:51 well what I mean is uh what is the name 10:54 of the page that describes how the 10:58 scripts will be developed 11:03 have 11:06 I'm not sure that you say about office 11:08 hours I don't see how uh office hour 11:11 script will be different from other 11:14 Scripts 11:15 so 11:24 here on a second I will see what what we 11:27 did here 11:30 so right right now we are discussing 11:32 this so for events 11:38 for events 11:39 we need this script development contract 11:43 right based on uh 11:45 so so it will be like a topic in CNN 11:48 cyber events 11:50 not on its own page 11:53 maybe we will do like our own page it 11:55 depends on how how big will it be I 11:59 don't know right now it's your 12:01 initiative I don't know how long it will 12:04 be so do something and we will see what 12:06 you got and we decide whether to move to 12:09 another page or not it is 12:13 easy with the wiki it's easy it's like 12:16 seconds 12:17 we will decide whether usually when I 12:20 work I work on the same page I'm working 12:23 working and then I see how long it is if 12:28 it's like too long we can move it uh to 12:31 somewhere else 12:33 what is the objective objective it's 12:36 basically I I believe like I addressed 12:39 this this this this this question so 12:43 um again objective to 12:47 to have good practices 12:49 to work with the documents to have 12:52 references 12:53 and again this is just a good good 12:56 practice for someone who works on the 12:59 project to have requirements in written 13:02 documented then okay you are coming to a 13:06 new guy saying oh we didn't proximus v a 13:10 guy saying oh I don't like praxmox V I 13:13 like openstack and say you know what sir 13:17 or Madam 13:18 we had this requirement it was kind of a 13:22 signature or confirmation by email that 13:25 will work on this we work for a month if 13:28 you want to move some something else 13:32 I will I will send you invoice right 13:36 pay for the work which we have done so 13:38 far and then we will discuss what you 13:41 want right so yeah yeah again scripting 13:46 is a basically records 13:49 and script is a part of the record is a 13:51 good part in normal case 13:54 video or like audio recording will be 13:57 probably enough right but 14:02 I would say also where I'm not sure how 14:05 many what kind of our policy with the 14:08 recording will be what if kind of it 14:11 will be like too many 14:12 um records 14:15 um 14:17 with the text it's easier to work 14:19 because eventually 14:23 these lines these words should go to the 14:26 requirements somehow 14:29 yeah it's my it's my kind of assumption 14:33 I haven't checked I need I really need 14:36 to take a script that you created and 14:38 kind of try to move it to to the office 14:42 hour page and or event page and to see 14:45 how it works 14:48 but when it's kind of written it's much 14:50 easier to to to work what did the target 14:53 audience and then product 14:56 in script 14:58 like in our case it will be 15:02 um whomever works on it so let's say 15:09 again 15:11 I 15:14 I thought about synonym cyber events 15:18 right 15:20 yeah I recorded the video I thought like 15:22 you will look for a video and kind of 15:25 learn something so I create this office 15:27 hour on my own 15:30 so it was both interior and three 15:34 and 15:37 since you didn't watch it or didn't 15:39 learn it or didn't execute it 15:42 and no one works on this page 15:46 so then I will take your script 15:50 which should be here on the discussion 15:53 page 15:54 the opposite on the office hour but it 15:57 must be here 15:59 and I will and I will work on it I will 16:02 try to get this word in and to see what 16:07 what is missing and Implement on the 16:10 page so 16:12 developer a developer is their 16:16 the target audience 16:19 of the script if you mean end product is 16:23 the script 16:24 but again yeah script by itself is not 16:26 the end product 16:28 script by itself is there like 16:30 intermediate product 16:32 it is some 16:34 like the page is the end product not the 16:38 script but the script I mean the product 16:40 page is the end product and script is a 16:44 part of development 16:48 with a deliverable the script is 16:50 deliverable 16:51 or the success criteria 16:54 usefulness 16:58 for now it's difficult to Define their 17:01 kind of the acceptance criteria or 17:03 success criteria 17:05 because we our our we have not good we 17:10 don't have a good experience 17:12 of 17:13 um using Scripts 17:17 we don't have a good experience of using 17:19 Scripts 17:20 we need to start doing this 17:23 and yeah after some time we will 17:27 we will kind of build up 17:30 what desired outcome 17:37 Wiki kind of Wiki Pages description of 17:40 the product 17:42 is the desired outcome outcome again 17:46 we need let's take 17:48 back the farm 17:51 I will talk it because I'm working on it 17:53 right now but today 17:56 so 17:57 eventually 17:59 we need to have 18:02 this platform 18:04 on which our Jitsu will work 18:08 which is called like talk 18:10 and we will do this conference one day 18:13 on The Talk dot 18:16 cnmcyber.com right 18:18 slash something so right now we are 18:21 doing this on employable U which is not 18:24 which is temper so 18:28 and product is the service but to build 18:31 this Farm 18:35 we need to have a description 18:37 what we are doing what we are what we 18:41 need to look for what we need to 18:44 and this description 18:47 right now I'm writing on my own it's not 18:50 final because Muhammad is working it on 18:53 it right now 18:55 we are thinking about their security 18:58 it's kind of we decided to use PF sense 19:01 it was not even mentioned here by the 19:03 way 19:08 yeah we haven't used it before so the 19:12 substance is still unknown 19:15 so I am right now 19:18 I'm writing something like as a as a sub 19:22 product 19:23 but when it's ready 19:25 then I will try to interview Muhammad me 19:28 or maybe Natalya 19:30 to say what maybe he will say he is 19:33 really good with the documentation he 19:35 will share what he had done 19:38 and we will update kind of these DNS 19:40 records because right now they are still 19:43 like on this call 19:45 this is this this name we use in Ukraine 19:49 but I'm already kind of started changing 19:52 to cinema cyber toxin I'm cyber but 19:54 again here will be like ip4 address not 19:57 ip6 and so on so forth 20:00 so when it's ready then 20:05 I will look for someone who will serve 20:07 it or maybe I will look for an intern 20:10 someone whom I can hire 20:13 and this person will execute will 20:15 develop what needs to be done let's say 20:17 once a week right 20:20 yeah to check or maybe once a month or 20:23 whatever 20:24 I will talk with mohanna there 20:27 so 20:30 to clarify the page I will need to 20:32 interview Muhammad 20:34 I may need to interview Natalia 20:38 so the script 20:41 is the way how to build the description 20:44 of the products right for me for this 20:46 case in this case 20:49 um yeah 20:51 then when we have a description of the 20:53 product then we develop this product 20:57 So eventually the final product 21:00 will be working technology 21:05 kind of the first like 21:08 the pre-final 21:11 intermediate product will be description 21:15 and pre-pre Final 21:20 product will be a script right 21:25 so script description 21:28 final product script description final 21:32 product so this is kind of this is the 21:34 sequence 21:36 um yeah 21:39 [Music] 21:40 what is the desired outcome working 21:43 technology 21:44 nice events 21:46 um 21:47 because again 21:49 we had this discussion before 21:52 and I said like oh whether this event is 21:56 good and I told you if you said oh it's 21:59 good I will say how how do you know 22:01 right 22:04 is a kind of there are several 22:06 definition of quality the one definition 22:10 is in Market quality is when it 22:12 perceived to be like quality product 22:16 but we're not going from that direction 22:19 yet not from the market 22:21 the technical instance 22:24 quality is 22:27 confirmation the description of the 22:30 product 22:32 matches the product itself right so we 22:35 have requirements and we have a product 22:37 if it's no gaps it's a Quality quality 22:41 product 22:42 so but to know that we have a quality 22:46 product we need to have a description if 22:48 we don't have a description how would we 22:50 know and scripting is a good way to 22:54 build this 22:55 um this 22:56 this description 22:59 that's it 23:02 yeah so 23:03 um apart from the questions that I've 23:06 asked what else can you add about 23:08 scripting 23:13 I I don't I cannot see I cannot think 23:15 about anything it's like new to me 23:20 right now I am involved in what I am 23:22 involved particularly like a farm and 23:24 office hours 23:27 yeah I would say we need to start like 23:30 we need to find I actually I thought 23:33 like we will talk how we will hire 23:35 people 23:37 um 23:39 because I don't know whether 23:42 like Rita and erastus Rita used to do it 23:46 but I don't know what the stage 23:48 and what kind of right now where we are 23:53 um 23:53 I would probably 23:58 try to hire someone 24:01 okay 24:02 um 24:07 yeah maybe reach out to her I can reach 24:09 out to her as well 24:11 okay I don't remember whether we have a 24:14 record or not my 24:17 point right now is I want to have 24:20 someone 24:21 who is subscribed for 24:24 like office hours like YouTube channel 24:29 and as soon as something was with the 24:32 name officer emerges 24:35 go down the question is how to pay for 24:39 this person 24:40 probably it should be like per word I 24:44 guess 24:46 um the rate the rate per word and maybe 24:49 for now per hour 24:51 but per hour how we will know whether 24:55 this will be maybe per word will be like 24:58 more 24:59 stable 25:01 but yeah 25:08 yep 25:10 okay yeah I think uh that helps really 25:14 helps a lot and thank you for your time 25:17 thank you for your questions I 25:19 guess to somewhere which is good yeah 25:24 okay okay 25:28 good have a good evening and and for me 25:33 have a good day right 25:38 what is the next 25:40 what is the next what kind of weird 25:43 after this 25:45 um we'll move to like Partnerships and 25:48 uh 25:50 we love our discussion on that yeah 25:52 partnership it's a good it's a good part 25:54 yeah 25:56 okay 25:58 pretty much 26:00 thank you very much